stripped of everything

Archive for the ‘Join The Conversation’ Category

Homosexuality: How Should We Respond?

with 13 comments

This is going to be a long post, but please read it.
I was reading a Relevant Magazine about Injustices of the world.
issuescover
One of the questions that were asked was, How Should We as Christians Respond to Homosexuality.
To answer these questions, they pulled in seven christian leaders;

  • Nancy Ortberg
  • N.T. Wright
  • Cindy Jacobs
  • Steve Brown
  • Chuck Colson
  • Brian Mclaren
  • Shane Claiborne

    I want to just pull Shane’s response for all to read…

    …….I had all these ideas about “homosexuality,” “civil union” and “gay” when I was in high school. Then I met a kid who was attracted to other men, and he told me he felt God had made mistake when He made him and that he wanted to kill himself. If that brother can’t find a home in the Church, then I wonder, who have we become? But I would also say it doesn’t mean we talk around the issue.
    …….We need to be able to disagree well, and maybe one of our biggest witnesses to the larger society is that we as a Church can disagree well. Even if we don’t agree on every issue, if we can disagree well, then I think that is something beautiful. I just talked to the national gathering of the United Methodists, and they’re thinking of splitting over this issue. To me, that is heart-wrenching. If we are able to have a healthier understanding of sexuality and to celebrate singleness as well as marriage and family, then we can transcend some of this. How can we as a church created a place that’s safe for people to experience intimacy and love, that doesn’t say the only path God could have for you is to have a husband and wife and two-and-a-half kids? It’s so scandalous that there are these heterosexual, married [couples] pointing fingers and saying gay folks are breaking up our families. Evangelicals are surpassing the divorce rate of secular society, and yet we’re accusing gay folks of breaking up the family, while all of them want to get married. I want to create communities where we can have a healthy conversation and not just point fingers and excommunicate people who disagree with us.

    When I read this today, Shane affirmed everything that I had been feeling after writing THIS post, and reading the responses.

    What’s your response to Shane?

    Like this post? Subscribe to stalk me here!

  • Written by vagabondrunn

    November 14, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Election 2008 – Praying Backwards @ Ragamuffinsoul.com

    with 2 comments

    8 We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed. We are perplexed, but not driven to despair. 9 We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God. We get knocked down, but we are not destroyed. 10 Through suffering, our bodies continue to share in the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies. 11 Yes, we live under constant danger of death because we serve Jesus, so that the life of Jesus will be evident in our dying bodies. 12 So we live in the face of death, but this has resulted in eternal life for you.

    2 Corinthians 4:8-12

    Tonight over at Ragamuffinsoul.com Los’ held a “Praying Backwards” service.
    praying-backwards1
    It was a live video feed on Mogulus.
    It was AMAZING.
    People from the Northeast United States to the Southwest United States
    praying-backwards-everywhere1
    [click the image to enlarge]

    The prayer was powerful all the way through the evening
    praying-backwards-everywhere2
    [click the image to enlarge]

    The most powerful of the moments came when the McCain voters prayed for Obama, while the Obama voters prayed over McCain.
    barak-prayer
    [click the image to enlarge]
    mccain-prayer
    [click the image to enlarge]

    It was absolutely incredible to see a community that has been torn apart from this election, against God’s will, come together to praise God and pray for all involved regardless of which political party you support. To recognize that we are a nation under God, serving ONE God, loving ONE God, and giving all of we are to HIS will and HIS way.

    As we go into the late night of Monday, and head over into Tuesday, Election Day, let’s be steadfast in prayer for our leaders, their families, the voters, and the future of God in this nation.

    Let’s end with this video:

    Feel free to post your prayer or thoughts here.

    Like this post? Subscribe to stalk me here!

    Written by vagabondrunn

    November 3, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Production Team Name/Shirt(s)

    with one comment

    Okay readers, you get first glimpse and first chance for suggestions on something I’ve been working on.
    You get to see these even before Ryan does.

    Let me explain…
    Recently in a post I asked for suggestions on a name for dialogue’s production team.
    Not many of you chimed in, but for those of you who did, thanks!
    Anyhow, today in our Monday morning meeting we discussed a way to get the kids of dialogue church more active and taking more ownership in the ministry.
    The credit for this idea goes to Kim, our chidrens ministry director.


    [click on the thumbnails for a close-up of the image]

    By allowing them to really take an ownership and have a ministry they can call their own will be huge. The photo is just something quick I pulled together. The shirt should probably be adjusted more for the younger generation.
    It’s just an idea.

    Anyhow, I also designed one for the adult team.


    [click on the thumbnails for a close-up of the image]

    There they are.
    Our production team shirts.
    Some of the ideas were taken from other church’s and the design of their production staff shirts.
    Let me know what you think, and also any suggestions you might have.
    This is anywhere from a finished product(e.g. the color is the wrong color of green).

    What’s your opinion? Lay it on me, I can take the truth!

    Like this post? Subscribe to stalk me here!

    Written by vagabondrunn

    November 3, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Two Months Later…

    with 2 comments

    Remember this tweet that I sent…

    Well after only two months and a few days(but who’s counting, right?), this is what we have…

    [pictures were taken with camera phone]

    I have to say honestly, I’m pretty impressed.
    New counter tops.
    New flooring.
    This Saturday I’m going to be painting.
    I need your help, what colors should I use to match the counter top:

    Anyhow, so far it looks pretty good…for a two month job that is.

    How long does it take you to do a project around your house?

    Like this post? Subscribe to my blog feed here!

    Written by vagabondrunn

    October 30, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Soo…I tweet alot.

    with one comment

    I went HERE, and it told me this:

    Hmmm.
    That brings me to my next question and Vagabondrunn’s first official Poll.

    Oh and by the way, follow me(and obviously be “annoyed”) on twitter HERE.
    Okay, anyhow…

    Help me understand, and explain…please.

    Like this post? Subscribe to my blog feed here!

    Written by vagabondrunn

    October 15, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Monday’s Thoughts

    with 3 comments

    I have a lot on my mind right now.
    I figured I’d take a minute to write out a few things that I’m thinking.
    Here are they in bullet points.

  • Currently Reading: Jesus Wants to Save Christians by Rob Bell
  • Two Book suggestions: Feel by Matthew Elliott & Messy Spirituality by Michael Yaconelli
  • Book excerpt that you have to read:

    Rob Bell in Jesus Wants to Save Christians….

    It’s as if God is saying, “The thing that has happened to you – go make it happen for others. The freedom from oppression that you are now experiencing – help others experience that same freedom. The grace that has been extended to you when you were at your lowest – extend it to others. In the same way that I heard you cry, go and hear the cry of others and act on their behalf.”

  • Sunday was awesome at Dialogue. Four new visitors this week, that stemed off of our “We Coffee You” outreach.
  • I love Hymn’s more than I realized.
  • If Notre Dame loses another game like they did on Saturday, I may have a heart attack.
  • Prayer services on Saturday night before Sunday morning gatherings should be a must each week.

    What’s on your mind? Really, it can be anything…

    Like this post? Subscribe to my blog feed here!

  • Written by vagabondrunn

    October 13, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    The Goal of the Church

    with 5 comments

    Yesterday at the office I had an opportunity to sit down with a co-worker and discuss our passions.
    One thing that I stated was that I desperately wanted to help the church discover and grasp their purpose.
    I believe fully the goal of the church is not to change people.
    I do not believe that it is my job or your job to take someone and change their beliefs or the way they think.
    I went on to say that I believe fully the job of the church is to love people.
    To love the community.
    It’s people.
    It’s buildings.
    It’s land.
    I believe that through the church body’s love for the community God will change the lives of people.
    She disagree’d with me. She felt that it was the church’s job to change the lives of it’s people. That not only was it our job, but it was our responsibility to change those people. That we are to also love them, yes, but God was calling us to change people.
    I have a truly hard time with that concept.
    I believe that if I am loving the community because I want the community to know Christ, that it’s wrong.
    That it’s not love.
    No matter what the agenda is placed on that love, it shouldn’t be there.
    Is it okay that we desire that for them, yes, and we should desire that.
    We should also seek change in our community..
    However, I believe that when our goal becomes to change someone, and because of that we love them, then the church has failed.
    The church has then introduced this conditional love into the community.
    We should want change, and we should seek change for the better of His kingdom.
    However, our love for the community should not only be active just due to our desire for change.

    You tell me, what is the goal of the church?

    Like this post? Subscribe to my blog feed here!

    Written by vagabondrunn

    October 11, 2008 at 1:45 pm